911 Call from Messina's Mother
This is the 911 recording from Lisa Messina, the mom of the 16-year-old boy who was shot by the Cherokee SWAT team Tuesday evening. Be advised that this material is mature and contains adult language.
Andrew Messina's mom called Cherokee 911 when her son threaten to kill them both in their Eagle Watch home in Towne Lake.
Lisa describes her son's medications, past counseling, how he obtained the gun she believed to be locked in their home, what she said triggered his actions and how he threatened to kill them both to the 911 operator.
Listen to the recordings divided into four segments above.
For details about how the Etowah High School student was killed, check here:
To watch a video interview from Cherokee Sheriff Roger Garrison as he explains how the incident occured, check here:
Shannon
4:49 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
Really? This seem HIGHLY inappropriate. Give this poor family a smidgen of privacy
Melissa
9:11 am on Thursday, May 3, 2012
Agreed, leave the family alone
Mkgs1970
10:11 am on Friday, May 4, 2012
I agree with giving privacy. However we can learn here one major thing that may even help in preventing future incidents. Lets look at the root causes. Perhaps we need to look at the pharmaceutical company and maybe the psychiatrist who gave him a medicine for an off-label use after it there have been serious FDA warnings for zoloft use in children in teens showing it causes suicidality, aggression and violence. Be careful when blaming a dead teen or the police who try to protect, and yet can make fatal mistakes.
constitution
3:41 am on Sunday, November 4, 2012
inappropriate? I think not. This continues to show how quickly the " police " will put a bullet in you. They dont care about you or me! Even when you pose no threat to anyone but yourself. I am almost sure this poor kid was on some " wonderful medicine " given by a doctor who gets a check monthly from the big pharmaceutical companies. Shame on the stupid parents who do no research. Real tuff guy that sniper who put a high caliber round in his stomach. Real fucking tuff guy!
Jaxson Shickler
6:21 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
Alright, David. How about people who talked to him every day? Are you implying this kid was some kind of evil psychopath? I know numerous reasons why this happened aside from the fact that he was intoxicated. They weren't that "he had bad grades" and his mom "didn't like who he was hanging out with." They are very serious and for the sake of the family I'm not going to point them out here. But you need to check yourself before saying something like that.
Shannon
6:33 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
Well his Mother has certainly been in my thoughts all day. I'm sure she's loving this call being broadcast for all to hear during her son's last minutes. I remember my best friends brother was killed in a traffic accident and the family BEGGED the local news to not show the body/car Nope-no go. I guess ratings are that important.
Michael Jacobs
8:39 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
Hi, Shannon: Within Patch, we talked about whether there was value in posting the 911 call. We did not do it for ratings (or the online equivalent). We did it because we believe that hearing it provides some insight into what happened beyond what you get from being told it was a hostage situation. I am sorry if this adds to the mother's pain, but as a parent of a high school student myself, if I were in her position, I can't imagine that anything published at this point would make my misery any deeper.
RIP ANDREW
7:19 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
Yeah David I don't care if you were his neighbor I went to school with Andrew for 3 years in middle school and you don't know the whole story so try shutting up and respecting Andrew and his family. He was not a bad kid and his family and him are in my prays. Maybe you should stop talking and start paying some respect for the family that just went through something terrible.
Laurie Prentice
8:48 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
Thank you!
Another Mom
9:07 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
This 911 call changes everything. This was not a hostage situation.. She was able to leave the home without any issue and before the cops arrived. I really hope there is an investigation and it's contents are released to the public. Something went horribly wrong. I am sure that the Family would want the call out as seemingly they have a potential case against the Sherifs Dept.
Michelle
12:04 am on Thursday, May 3, 2012
@another mom - have you ever dealt with a person that has mental health issues???
Georgia Peach
11:02 am on Thursday, May 3, 2012
(Another Mom), everybody calls the Police to help when somebody is in danger, when it's all over, somebody is always mentioning LETS SUE THE POLICE, it's all they're fault, when the situation turns tragic. You know what, it's NOT the polices fault! They have steps to handle these situations however if at ANY TIME during these situations, a gun is pointed at them or anybody else, it's all over! What do you want them to do, let the disturbed individual shoot one of them or somebody else on the street FIRST so you and others can justify it? People, it's a lose lose situation, it's sad, terrible, but it's NOT the polices fault, they did what had to be done due to the circumstances at that moment. Think first, think about it hard!
James Thomas Whitmore
11:37 am on Thursday, May 3, 2012
When you point a gun at the police you get shot whether you have a hostage or not
Mary K
7:51 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
I do agree, something went horribly wrong.
lifelong resident
9:39 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
why is always the cops fault instead of the person causing the whole situation?
Mary K
7:55 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
You have to understand the steps the negoitiators took to know they messed up. I believe they were inexperienced and incompetent. Who was in charge? Where were Garrison and his commanders and leaders? Would the boy have broken the glass of the door if the negoitiators were not in his face? Is that the procedure to go up to the door when someone has a gun? There are lots of questions.
Another Mom
9:43 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
Listen to the call.
Scott smith
9:47 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
They did what they are trained to do....just like a soldier.He picked up a gun that makes him a threat..
Im sorry for the family.but the people you all depend on every day are not to blame.
Mary K
7:56 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
Read above--it is not that cut and dry.
Bridget CCdouble-q Williams
9:50 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
I personally knew Andrew. He wouldnt purposely hurt anyone else. He was troubled and unstable, but he was never unkind. Once, two months ago, I had been upset, and he had made sure that I was alright. He always helped those in need and never failed to make people feel better. This is heartbreaking, so please, unless it's nice or respectful, keep it to yourself.
tyler w
10:27 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
He aimed a gun at innocent people of course he was gonna shot if somebody aimed a gun at me id shot then too and I'm sure every single person blaming the cops would have done the same thing doesn't matter how nice or mean the kid was
Mary K
7:58 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
You were not there. There were no people around.
Kelly
11:14 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
Where are you hearing he aimed the gun at someone, because I read he shot the window OR broke it with the gun. It seems like stories are very misguided because everyone was led to believe this was a hostage situation and it clearly was not.
Lindsey Davidson
11:22 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
Kelly, I can clear up the confusion about the window and the gun. The sheriff's department originally released a statement saying Messina either shot a single bullet through the glass or shoved his gun though the glass. Once I spoke with Sheriff Garrison this morning, he clarified that it was the situation where Messina shoved his gun through the glass toward the two officers near his front door. Garrison said he had cuts all up his arm from pushing it through the thick glass with the gun. Hope that information helps clear up the confusion for you.
Mary K
7:58 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
You are correct. There was no hostage situation.
Kelly
11:47 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
Ok that makes more sense. Thank you
Mary K
8:00 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
Why were the officers near the front door? Why? Was that smart? Is that what you do in this situation, get in front of the person? Does that make sense?
Susan
8:20 am on Thursday, May 3, 2012
Please join me on Facebook at Andrews Justice. We need to demand that this story remain on the fore front of everyone's mind. I am outraged and disgusted.
James Thomas Whitmore
11:33 am on Thursday, May 3, 2012
Outraged about what he pointed a gun at the police and they shot him thats how they are trained, if they took time to think hey hes only 16 the headline may have read cop killed during standoff. They have to think about there familys and making it home to them at night so you should be thankful that none of our brave public servants were hurt.
nonny mouse
10:00 am on Thursday, May 3, 2012
Yes he went charging at the two deputies standing at the front door trying to negotiate! So of course, you point a gun at any officer or show any threat they are taught to take out the threat. And that's what they did. Great job Sheriff's office! Glad they stopped it before anything worse happened. But like always its gotta be someones fault so blame the cop cause that's easier then facing reality.
Mary K
8:01 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
I believe the cops/swat/negoitiators mishandled the situation. They did not have enough experience and were incompetent. That is what I believe.
Timothy
11:02 am on Thursday, May 3, 2012
Good thing he didn't take the 357 to Etowah. Chalk another one up for Zoloft!!!
paula
12:47 pm on Thursday, May 3, 2012
I'm appalled how police handled this tragedy... When 911 asked the mother if she was feared her son would shoot her or anyone else, mother specifically stated "NO".. And 911 asked if she feared that he would shoot himself, mother specifically answered "YES".. And the mother was freely talking from outside on her deck at that point.. The boy was medicated with antidepressant medication AND meds for attention deficit disorder (adderall perhaps), a stimulant.. In addition it is claimed he was drinking (by newspaper) alcohol.. We're talking about an over medicated 16 year old CHILD!!!! You mean because officials felt negotiaters were too close outside the front of the home and they "thought" they heard a gun shot , a "sniper" shooting the boy is justified???? I have no understanding why they allowed the standoff to go on for as long as it did... Why did the 911 operator tell the mother leave immediately, rather asking her if she can try and get the gun from the boy! And why couldn't' they flush the boy out w/tear gas, qrather allowing this to go on for hours putting the neighbors at risk??? I mean, they weren't dealing with some Al Qaeda terrorist! It was a mentally ill, over medicated child!!! This whole ordeal was handled poorly and unprofessionally... My heart aches for the mother...
James Thomas Whitmore
12:52 pm on Thursday, May 3, 2012
If the 911 operater would of instructed the mom to try and get the gun and the boy shot her it would of been on the countys hand. and if they flushed him out with tear gas then rather than being in a home with a gun he would of been loose in a neighborhood with a gun.
Mary K
8:05 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
I agree with you paula. You have your facts. We should all be outraged of the handling of this situation. This boy was only a threat to himself. Also, the police escalated the situation when they showed up on the scene. 15-20 police/swat came out and they were pointing guns and rifles at the poor 16 year old boy. The boy went from sad, to terrified and frantic. How would you feel if you have huge guns and rifles pointed at you. The police over-reacted and terrified the boy.
paula
12:58 pm on Thursday, May 3, 2012
Not only did police kill a boy, they also killed the mother... I imagine she blames herself... She called 911 in fear the boy would shoot himself, instead cops shot him... Her life is undoubtedly over... Poor, poor woman...
paula
1:20 pm on Thursday, May 3, 2012
The 911 operator did ask the woman if she can get the gun from the boy... I couldn't believe what I was hearing! Tear gas is a irritant not only to the lungs, but also the skin and eyes.. That boy would not have the ability to run out with gun in hand and get away.. He would have been physically incapable, especially being so young.. Don't forget he was impaired with drugs and alcohol-- also impairing reflexes and quick thinking.. Providing police surrounded the house (I'm not sure at this point) there would have been no way he would have gotten away, period... A highly trained law enforcement agent (Sniper) shot the boy, not the run of the mill officer.. Sending negotiators up to the house and not expecting anyone in this state not to respond in a threatening way was just plain stupid on law enforcement part... I think they felt they could over power this boy-- Then they "think" they hear a shot (why didn't they assume that as a strong possibility and not send them up there in the first place??) so this highly trained guy shoots the kid in the stomach?? Why not the leg, ARM, or shoulder???
R.L. Federalist
2:15 pm on Thursday, May 3, 2012
Paula - I'm assuming that you have extensive law enforcement/crisis management experience that gives you a better grasp than the trained experts on how the situation should have been handled? Or are you just talking out of your backside?
Let's keep in mind that none of us were there...and even if we were, none of us on this board were privy to the specifics of this situation. Neither you (nor I) have any inside information on what happened from the time the mother hung up with the dispatcher until the shot was fired.
This is a tragedy for the young man, his family and the officers involved...especially the sniper. Let's not make it a bigger tragedy by blaming those people who put their lives on the line each day in order to protect us...especially when you only know just enough to be dangerous.
Carol Becker
5:10 pm on Friday, May 4, 2012
Paula,
I agree with you. You don't have to have extensive training to know that shooting to injure would have been a better solution. The sniper is a sharp shooter. He could have nullified the threat without killing this young man. I don't care what anyone else says. It COULD have been done.
James Thomas Whitmore
1:36 pm on Thursday, May 3, 2012
If you shoot somebody in the leg or arm they could still be a threat but if they are dead they are not a threat when you have a second to line up and take a shot you aim at the largest part of the body to ensure you end the situation.
Mary K
8:08 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
James--how do you know if the boy ever fired a shot in his life? Do you think the police had that information?
KO
2:16 pm on Thursday, May 3, 2012
I have been told that he had been seen pouring alcohol on the drapes and have been given to understand that tear gas may have made any fire started worse or maybe could have started a fire combined with the alcohol (have no idea of the accuracy).
As to where AM was shot- the sniper was aiming through semi-opaque glass. I would think that would make it much harder to aim for a leg or arm. Additionally, he did not go for the head or heart shot that would have left 0 hope of sparing his life. He may have been trying to get him out alive.
If the kid had somehow shot a negotiator, everyone would be screaming that the sniper made a mistake. This was a no-win situation. The sad reality is that the cops are trained to respond like they did. Maybe something could have been done differently; but, that is not sufficient reason to blame the cops. Blame their training- i.e. that they are prob not trained different tactics for a 16y.o. kid vs an adult - but don't blame them. They were doing their job.
And all the casting of blame in the world will not bring Andrew Messina back
Maria
3:13 pm on Thursday, May 3, 2012
Well said KO, the fact is that for those of us who live in Eagle Watch I can say I am glad that he wasn't able to leave the home! I have children that live in the neighborhood, one of the playground is very close to where this happened. I for one can say that while I am upset that Andrew lost his life, I am very glad that the gun didn't make it around our neighborhood OR god forbid Etowah High School.
Mary K
8:11 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
The boy was never a threat to leave the house. Also there was no one around the house for him to hurt. Negotiators had plenty of protection, shields, vests, and helmets. I now the house, all the glass is clear. The had very good views. I will also tell you, he had a kill shot. I believe the boy died within minutes.
Melissa
4:31 pm on Thursday, May 3, 2012
I looked at the website, thanks. Watch out Adele !
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tyler w
4:55 pm on Thursday, May 3, 2012
It doesn't matter the situation who called the cops if he was drugged or drunk or what the hell ever I feel bad the mom lost her son and I'm sad a young man lost his life. But he waved a gun at cops... That sums up everything. And it doesn't matter how nice someone is just think what would every single one of yaw had done if you were one of those cops and someone was waving a gun at you and your fellow officers and the houses around with familes in them?
Mary K
8:16 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
Do you know if the gun was loaded? Did they know if it was a real gun? Waving a gun does not mean a 16 year old boy should be dead. Need to know all the facts. Did he ever shoot a gun before. There was no competition. 15-20 swat/sniper/police well armed and skilled, against a harmless, frightened, non-violent 16 year old frightened boy who waved a gun, (real or not, loaded or not).
Kerry Walker
5:26 pm on Thursday, May 3, 2012
They did not have to kill this kid. Our country has become a Police State and it is only getting worse. I have been through pure hell because of the Cherokee Country Sheriff's Department and their corrupt and dishonest actions. They act with egos, and not with compassion or intelligence. Search: Kerry Walker Story
R.L. Federalist
7:16 pm on Thursday, May 3, 2012
Mr. Walker - I can't find a Cliff's Notes version of your story so I'm not going to pass judgement on whether your injustice is real or perceived. I am however, going to pass judgement on your comment that "Our country has become a Police State": pure, unadulterated stupidity. You're able to speak publicly about your troubles with the government without fear of catching a bullet in youir head. Search: Chen Guangcheng
Mary K
8:19 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
I agree Kerry. Let me correct you--Cherokee County has become a Police State under Garrison. Why was'nt Garrison on the scene? Where was he? I believe the under Garrison, the sheriffs department is corrupt and dishonest and I believe they are bullies!
R.L. Federalist
9:22 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
Mary K - I'm glad to see that you joined the conversation, albeit a month and a half later. I assume you want people to hear what you have to say and, maybe, sway their opinions. Because of this, a little piece of advice:
I've read all your opinions and it's nice that you have a public place to air your opinions and grievances without fear of retribution from a government entity. But, my response to you is going to be very similar to my response to Mr. Walker: When you refer to Cherokee County as a "Police State", you lose ALL credibility. No matter how informed or educated your opinions may be (and I'm not passing judgement either way), you come off as a tin-foil-hat-wearing dingbat when you make that comparison.
MB
6:39 pm on Thursday, May 3, 2012
MB
This was NOT a hostage situation. Listen to the 911 call, the mother was not in fear for her safety. She almost had to be convinced to leave. If the boy was erratic the officers had no reason to be that close to the door, period. The fact that the boy may have been trying to start a fire still does not justify DEADLY FORCE. Sheriff Garrison should have made his way to the scene. He should have been made aware of the boys age and mental issues. The officers had many options and their poor training resulted in this death. They could have maintained a large perimeter around the home. A 357 is very difficult to fire accurately. The could have used tear gas or a flash grenade. It's done and I will pray for the family and the officer. I will also not vote for Garrison in the next election.
R.L. Federalist
8:54 pm on Thursday, May 3, 2012
"This was NOT a hostage situation."
Correct: Sheriff Garrison has stated that this was misreported.
"If the boy was erratic the officers had no reason to be that close to the door, period."
If that's the only way that they could try to communicate with him, yes, they did.
"The officers had many options and their poor training resulted in this death."
So, what, based on your PROFESSIONAL experience and training would you recommend to these officers who HAVE been through own extensive training?
"A 357 is very difficult to fire accurately."
I beg to differ. A .357 is one of the most accurate pistols I've ever fired.
"The could have used tear gas or a flash grenade."
In a house that's been doused in alcohol? The fumes alone could have caused a major fire and made a bad situation worse.
I don't really care one way or the other whether Garrison gets re-elected or not. But, to blame him or his department for what was a lose-lose situation is pretty unfair...
Ashley s
9:57 pm on Thursday, May 3, 2012
We get it federalist, everyone has a right to their opinions and feelings. I'm sure your not anymore correct than anyone else.
Carol Becker
5:13 pm on Friday, May 4, 2012
THERE. The fire department was RIGHT I think it is sort of an exaggeration that the house was going to go up in flames. Please. The fire department was RIGHT THERE.
LaVonne Otwell
7:06 pm on Thursday, May 3, 2012
It's tragic for everyone; the parents knew he was a problem, but had a 357 in the house. That's irresponsible.
Ashley s
9:41 pm on Thursday, May 3, 2012
I don't think anyone has a right to comment Negatively against the boy. Whether it was handled right or not he was Killed, any of these inconsiderate fools that are glad for the safety of their family and glad he was killed, keep it to your damn self, it could just as easily be your child one day.
Ashley s
9:54 pm on Thursday, May 3, 2012
Also I'm pretty sure the sheriffs intentions weren't to harm him in any way, since when did any of us become god?
dw
12:13 am on Friday, May 4, 2012
This is a sad situation for all involved. My heart goes out to the parents, to friends, to neighbors and to the officers involved. But I have read comments and I have to question some of them. Clearly the child was desperate to have done what he did. Clearly it was a volatile situation...and could have ended up with even worse consequences....as if this wasn't bad enough. Anti-depressants at that age are known to cause kids to become suicidal--especially mixed with alcohol. He chose to knock out the window with the gun knowing that he had officers in close contact. He chose to do this knowing that there would be consequences. I do not live in Eagle Watch. I am a parent. My heart aches for his parents. My heart aches for the troubled young man. My heart aches for the officer involved. But my question is for those who keep doubting what the officer did: Would you be so quick to judge if that had been your parent/child who was having a gun waved at them and in danger if they were law enforcement? Would you be so quick to judge if they had backed off and he had gotten out running through the neighborhood and put other children in danger? The boy was in a bad place...and to me, it appears that he brought this on himself. He knew what he was doing. To me, there was something going on with Andrew that maybe no one even knew about and he wanted an easy way out. Maybe he couldn't get the courage to do it himself and he thought the only way was to have the officers end his pain......
Mary K
8:23 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
DW your statement is outrageous. Maybe..maybe...maybe.
dw
12:21 am on Friday, May 4, 2012
I am extremely heartbroken over this thinking what could any of have done to help eased this childs fears; to have helped him to overcome whatever obstacles he was facing. But trust me: I have family in law enforcement. Not here in Cherokee County. Not saying I'm a fan/supporter of who is in office. I don't know anyone involved in this situation. But the law is the law. You do not threaten a police officer. They have to uphold their duty to serve and protect. What they were trying to do was to communicate with Andrew and try to bring this to a peaceful conclusion. I listened to the 911 tape; I listened to Sheriff Garrison's accts of what transpired. I heard the desperation in both Andrew's voice and his mother's voice. If the deputies had allowed him to get out of that house if they had not surrounded it, and he had harmed another child in the neighborhood or anyone else God forbid.........everyone would be saying they (law enforcement) had not done enough. I am a parent who has a child at Etowah. What if he had brought that gun on campus? What if he had been bullied and he decided to take it out on students on campus? What if that were your parent, your sibling, your child standing on the other side of that glass when he knocked it out waving the gun around and threatening them in that matter? What would you say then? Let it be and let this family grieve. Remember them. But remember also that there is an officer who I know is having a hard time dealing with this himself.
dw
12:26 am on Friday, May 4, 2012
God tells us that we are not to judge others. I'm not judging that child. He needed help, and evidently needed it bad. But don't judge those who were there to serve and protect either. They were trying to protect everyone around who could have been in danger as well. And, for those who want to know why they didn't throw tear gas.........they couldn't with him soaking things with alcohol.......that would have set off a fire. They did what they had to do to protect everyone in close proximity to this situation. Please...let the family grieve and let those involved grieve.
Mary K
8:24 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
DW--were you there?
Kerry Walker
1:51 am on Friday, May 4, 2012
This kid should not be dead. There are facts about this town and there are facts about the Cherokee County Sheriff's Department that are not positive. Search: Nightmare in Georgia
Mary K
8:26 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
I agree with you Kerry. Yes, the police usually do a good job protecting citizens, however they do make mistakes and I believe the made multiple mistakes in this situation.
Lindsey Davidson
7:35 am on Friday, May 4, 2012
For those of you who have questions about the procedures and protocol the SWAT team follows, including the snipers, we spoke to the captain of the Cherokee County SWAT team for more answers. Check here to see what he had to say: http://patch.com/A-sXgT
Mkgs1970
9:44 am on Friday, May 4, 2012
One key thing that no one is mentioning is the fact that the student was on ZOLOFT. Zoloft is only approved for OCD and yet psychiatrists still tend to use it for other "Off-label" purposes. The FDA issues a major and very explicit warning about Zoloft use in children and teens re: the potential to make depression turn into "suicidal behavior" and "aggressive/ violent" behavior. Lets stop talking about the actual day because I do think everyone did their "best" to help and that doesn't say there weren't possibly fatal mistakes made. Lets look at learning about this and helping the parents "sue" or understand how their loving, pacivist, socially conscious, musically talented and very bright IB student, turned into an adolescent they couldn't recognize. My own mother was given Zoloft once for mild anxiety and within 24 hours she got so depressed we had her in the ER that night. That has never happened before or after that and it was blamed on the effects of Zoloft. My uncle took Zoloft for his OCD and did very well on it. The medication is not evil in itself, however knowing this young man and how "extra" loving and good he was, I can only imagine the absolute flip in personality that occurred with this drug in his system mixed with alcohol to boot. FDA made the warning due to several similar cases, the warning is quite serious and you can google it if you're interested. Signed< a trained and licensed mental health professional
Citizen
1:19 am on Saturday, May 5, 2012
I believe as a community we need to stop trying to lay blame to an individual, whether it is a person or entity. After listening to the 911 call it is obvious that the poor mother was in fear when her son pointed the gun at her. I believe it is unfair to judge without all of the facts but it is a right of all citizens of this county to question actions taken by any government entity. If we do not question the things that happen and challenge the outcome we cannot grow as a community. That being said it is highly inappropriate and immoral to place blame without the complete story. That sniper did his job, however distasteful it ended up being. That mother did her job when she could not handle the situation at home. And we are all doing our job as citizens to evaluate whether this is a community we choose to raise our children in. I do not believe police tried to provoke that young man into a confrontation; they likely did what had worked so often in the past. Please consider how your actions/comments affect the rest of our community, a family that is grieving and a police department that is saddened. I cannot imagine how tragic it is for the people who knew and associated with the family but please consider their feelings above your own outrage at the outcome.
Citizen
1:20 am on Saturday, May 5, 2012
Surely you must realize the Sheriff is aware there are video recordings of the incident that could become public knowledge and he would not lie to cover up anything. This is the same man who was forthright about the missteps with the little girl so heinously murdered in Canton. Please be considerate of the torment everyone involved is going through. And if you have video please provide it to the GBI as opposed to bragging about it. That video could make a difference the next time we all have to deal with any situation like this. It is very sad that this has happened in our community please don’t let it tear us apart. Please pray for everyone involved to find peace.
Mary K
8:31 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
Citizen, let me remind you that Garrison made the remark about the May 1st tragedy..."if I had to do it over, I would not change a thing". Is this leadership? I believe that this was an ignorant, unremorseful, and arrogant statement. How do you think family and friend of this boy felt about that? Did any law enforsement, or Garrison show up to show there respect of this family and boy at any funeral service?
Just Think
10:54 am on Saturday, May 5, 2012
What it comes down to is no one deserves to die, certainly not at a young age.
But there are a couple of things I would like to point out to those who feel sorry for the mother, she cared more about her neighbors not knowing what happened than helping her son who has a past of suicidal thoughts. I understand not putting them in danger but she said the situation was embarrassing. Also if she knew that her son had such thoughts why would there be a gun kept in the house, or the son be knowledgeable of where it was.
I know if my son and I were having a fight about grades or friends and he found a gun I would say none of those things are important enough to take any life and stop the argument there and tell him that you loved him and calm him down.
There are many ways to look at what happened depending on your morals but one thing that everyone should agree on and leave it at is that is terribly sad to see a young person have to leave the earth with so much more life to live. May he rest in peace.
JustTheFaxMaam
11:06 pm on Saturday, May 5, 2012
Do any of you know of funeral arrrangements or a memorial service for Andrew?
Mike W
7:44 pm on Sunday, May 6, 2012
Watch Chanel 2 News tonight, They have the first interview from the Family.
I am so glad that they are getting the actual story out.
Also for People in Eagle Watch that didn't want bullets flying around, the one that killed Andrew didn't stop there. Through the window, through Andrew, through the steps through the wall and through the back wall of the house. The back yard is like a cliff so the bullet did not end up in a hillside. It most likely hit another house somewhere.
Please watch and be informed...
David Payton
7:03 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
I did repeat what I heard several officers, neighbors and a GBI agent told me. I had no reason to disbelieve that many separate people. I apologize for anything I said to hurt or offend anyone. I lost an aunt and a cousin I grew up with in seperate incidents this week as well as a fatal police standoff across the street from my house. Now my angry neighbors are insulting and slandering me on the web. I may have let my emotions get too much control over me. I should have thought things through before I posted.
Melissa, I don't know you, but whatever I have said or done to make you so angry, hateful and mean, I'm sorry. I will personally apologize to the Messina's for anything I said in my emotionally agitated state to hurt or offend them.
Scott Mc
8:20 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
I'm a neighbor of the Messinas and I knew Andrew for many years. He was a good kid (despite whatever conclusions you draw from the 911 tapes or news reports) and I always enjoyed chatting with him when we had a chance. He will be missed and my prayers for peace and strength are with Andrews parents. For those of you with strong feelings of anger towards the police; or the parents; or Andrew himself; or even other people posting on this site, I hope you see through your emotions to respect the true tragedy… a young man has been taken and family and friends mourn. God bless all of you who hurt.
David Payton
6:25 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
I profusely apologize for my misinformed remarks. Emotions ran high and I believed what I was told by authorities and neighbors. I have learned a huge lesson about keeping my emotional rants to myself until I know the facts. Andrew never held his mother hostage. He was apparently not even bipolar. I was told he was a drug dealer too, which I did NOT believe. I am SO sorry for running my mouth, and inadvertently hurting people who are already in umimaginable pain.
Kerry Walker
2:38 pm on Sunday, August 19, 2012
Garrison is a dishonest man and he runs a dishonest force. Then the local newspaper steers away from stories that convey the corruption. Read: The Dawn of Intelligence by Kerry Craig Walker
Kerry Walker
9:39 am on Sunday, November 4, 2012
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